Second Thoughts WTO (id:#57789)
See Also: Second Thoughts by Multi-Man PublishingWingen-sur-Moder, France
1945-01-04 (13 others)
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SP9: Gun Copse (Schwerpunkt # 1)
FF10: Castle Keep (FireFights! #2)
HG-15: King Darges (High Ground 2)
WSM1: Dawn Attack (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM2: Krauts in the Holes (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM3: A Company Alone (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM4: Jumbo Time (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM5: Love Hurts (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM6: Company G (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM8: The 781st Tries Again (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
BK 2.3: Bicske Brawl (Coastal Fortress)
BoF11: Second Thoughts (Best of Friends)
SP9: Gun Copse (Schwerpunkt # 1)
FF10: Castle Keep (FireFights! #2)
HG-15: King Darges (High Ground 2)
WSM1: Dawn Attack (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM2: Krauts in the Holes (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM3: A Company Alone (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM4: Jumbo Time (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM5: Love Hurts (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM6: Company G (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
WSM8: The 781st Tries Again (Nordic Twilight - Norwind 1945)
BK 2.3: Bicske Brawl (Coastal Fortress)
BoF11: Second Thoughts (Best of Friends)
Designer: Mattias Rönnblom
Starter kit scenario?: Deluxe scenario?:
Balance:
German (SS)American
Overview:
The first objective of Operation Nordwind, Hitler's last major offensive in the west, was to secure a path through the Low Vosges mountains to the Alsatian plains. One possible path ran through Wingen-sur-Moder. Kampfgruppe Wingen was tasked to seize the village. - - - - In "Second Thoughts" SS-Gebirgs-Jäger and a captured M8 HMC meet a tiny American infantry force defending Heidenneck outside Wingen. The Americans are ready to give up arms, but change their minds as they receive unexpected armored reinforcements, which enable them to counter-attack and retake Heidenneck and maybe even break through to the now German-held Wingen itself with the tanks.Attacker: German (SS) (Kompanie 5, Bataillon I, SS-Gebirgsjäger-Regiment 12, SS-Gebirgs-Division 6 “Nord,” Kampfgruppe Wingen and Captured M8 HMC)
Defender: American (1271st Engineer Combat Battalion and Service Troops of 179th Infantry Regiment and Company B, 781st Tank Battalion and Company l, 276th Infantry Regiment, 70th Infantry Division, Task Force Herren)
7 turns
Players: 2 OBA: None Night: NoUnit Counts: |
Squads: A:7.0 D:13.0 |
AFVs: A:1 M8 HMC |
AFVs: D:3 M4A3(76)W M4A3 x 2 |
Guns: A:0 D:0 |
Misc Rules: | GS. A: Infantry have WC. M8 crew is Inexperienced but suffers no use penalties |
Map Board(s): |
Publication | Board |
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ASL 12 - Armies of Oblivion | 49 |
ASL 12 - Armies of Oblivion (2nd Edition) | 49 |
Overlays: | St1 | RR8 |
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Last Played:
Date | Reporter | Opponent | Bal. | Result | Time | Comments | |
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2023-02-07 | (A) Will Willow | vs | Jim Waterhouse | American win | Germans couldn't do anything right. Over in 4 turns. | ||
2022-05-15 | (A) Pascal Boileau | vs | Serge Doba | German (SS) win | A very nice scenario. It was tense until the very last turn. In the beginning, Germans were severely challenged and the M8 HMC was recalled the turn after entering... At the end, the Americans were not in position to take back all the victory buildings and therefore they rushed their AFV toward the exit but German PF were unmerciful.. | ||
2022-05-15 | (D) Doba Serge | vs | Pascal B. | German (SS) win | |||
2018-03-07 | (D) Richard Carter | vs | Bruce Steed | German (SS) win | Interesting scenario. I tried to make a run for it with some tanks and it didn't work out. He was able to hold on to one building in the end. Though I think I could have made a better final push. | ||
2015-06-20 | (D) Richard Jenulis | vs | Lyle Fisher | American win | BC Human Wave 2015 |
Action | Date |
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Augie Linked the scenario to ROAR | 2024-09-28 14:27:48 |
Turuk Uploaded a VASL file | 2024-07-08 19:11:16 |
wwillow Added a playing | 2023-02-07 19:52:01 |
Bongiovanni Added a playing | 2023-01-20 11:58:54 |
lechiquier94 Added a playing | 2022-05-15 20:17:58 |
File | Description | User | Views |
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VASL Scenario Setup (FrF-8 Second Thoughts v667.vsav) | VASL Setup | Turuk | 233 |
120th Engineer Battalion near Wingen Sur Moder (Build_road_Wingen.jpg) | Image | King Billy | 1485 |
(!ss-usa new.png) | Image | hoxson1 | 889 |
FrF8 Second Thoughts (FrF8.png) | Map Image | Houlie | 1538 |
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Title | Author | Date |
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Second Thoughts (view) | Chas_Argent | 2006-10-14 14:49:50 |
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120th Engineer Battalion near Wingen Sur Moder
Statistics: | |
Avg Rating: 7.23 | Votes: 22 |
Views: | 11506 |
To-Play list count: | 1 |
Estimated Play time: | 4.3 hours |
Recorded Games: | 17 |
Archive recorded plays: | ||
German (SS) | 11 | |
American | 6 | |
Drawn: | 0 |
ROAR Data: (as of today) Second Thoughts [Confirmed] |
[A] American | 22 |
[D] German | 22 |